Why have we heard that the outdoor facilities plan is costing $10 million dollars?
Currently there is no plan to spend $10 million dollars on our outdoor facilities. That number was thrown out as a “ball park” number of what everything in the draft plan might cost if fully built out. The final plan, was presented in September, and featured conceptual level estimate ranges for each element of the plan. This allows the plan to cost whatever the Board, community, and administration believe is the right amount to spend in order to support our programs, and maintain our facilities in a safe and fiscally responsible manner.
Consultant self-serving in recommending this work in order to get follow up business.
The District follows state bidding requirements in awarding design and construction work. It’s possible that K&W could be awarded work in the future but it would be done through a competitive RFP process that would provide the most value to the District.
Facilities are fine and require no upgrades - majority of those surveyed think things are fine.
Only 1/10 of our constituents participated in the survey. The results from the survey do not support this. The life expectancy of current facility materials and Tennis courts are over 25 years old and need to be replaced anyway - this is a good opportunity to do that.
Facilities are fine for school use and upgrades are being done only for outside organizations.
Most of the upgrades being proposed are prioritized based on improving the overall safety of the campus. The other elements are being proposed either as a result of the safety upgrades (relocation of tennis courts), or to improve current site deficiencies (parking, sloped fields, etc.). There is no additional space being built for outside organizations to use.
Unionville Elementary School
Can the parking lots be restriped by UCFSD maintenance? (Element 1A)
We have performed numerous re-striping and painting over the years with in-house staff. At this point the projected scope of work requires a mill and overlay of the paving as the years of seal coating and covering continue to wear through due to plowing and salting operations. These details require a significant amount of time and specific equipment beyond our maintenance departments capabilities.
The ballfield is not necessary since there are no elementary baseball teams. The backstop and fencing are in very good condition with only some surface rust. (Element 1B)
While there are no elementary baseball teams, the field is used regularly for physical education classes and during recess. Our maintenance staffs’ current duties maintaining our primary athletic fields does not leave us the opportunity to properly address this field. The field would need additional maintenance such as re-edging, re-grading, adding infield mix, top-dressing, and overseeding. Additionally, issues with the backstop and fence are more extensive than just surface rust.
How will the outdoor classroom, nature trail and nature play area be addressed? (Elements 2 - 4)
Use for these elements has not been defined; however, there is an opportunity to explore the potential to utilize these areas in support of curriculum initiatives. Further discussion is needed to develop a program that will bring to light the true potential of these elements as resources for our students. Additionally, these elements could be addressed in partnership with various conservancy groups as opposed to a District capital expense.
High School/ Middle School
The JV and Varsity backstops, field fences and foul poles are in very good condition. Why wasn't netting installed long ago if the situation is so dangerous? (Element 1A)
The backstops are fine and will stay as they are. The work on these elements is a ball control system to avoid foul balls from entering the track/stadium area and causing injuries. Balls leaving the field occur more often than you would think. In the past, the hazard was regulated by avoiding scheduling overlap; however this is difficult to accommodate especially when you factor in weather delays and rescheduled games.
The softball field fence and backstop are in excellent condition, they were replaced recently. Why wasn't an appropriate backstop, wrap around, installed at that time? (Element 1D)
The backstop is new and is appropriate. The work here is a ball netting system along 82 to prevent balls from entering the roadway. This work is currently not in the long range facilities plan.
Why does varsity softball need a fence and warning track? (Element 3B)
The addition of fence and warning track will bring our softball field on par with others in the league as well as with other fields in our district. They will also assist in ball containment and increase safety.
Existing tennis courts are in great shape. Why would we relocate them?
Our tennis courts are over 25 years old and life expectancy on asphalt based courts is 25-30 years. They were just re-coated a year ago due to numerous cracks from the breakdown of the asphalt base. We anticipate conditions to worsen and require a full replacement sooner rather than later. Additionally, relocating the courts would give us the opportunity to address the shortfall of the current layout. JV and Varsity play seven matches per event. Only having six courts delays the start of the JV game, therefore, increasing the length of the overall event.
Are we exploring alternatives to the tennis expansion and relocation?
How do we justify the expense of the new turf and tennis facilities?
How would the double turf field benefit our middle school students?
All middle school students take PE twice a week for the entire year. Outside PE class would occur on the double turf, daily, weather permitting, from August - November, and March - June - providing students with fresh air and natural light - two key factors in student wellness. Additionally, the double turf would be used for HawkTime on Fridays
Why do students need to spend so much time outside for PE?
The gym is small and class sizes are large. The double turf field will provide a more consistent outdoor teaching space for kids/classes to spread out. When fields are closed, instruction can be challenging and limited with all of the students in the gym.
Why can’t the middle school students just use the high school turf for PE class?
The HS turf field is far from the middle school nurse's office. Using the HS turf field costs about 8 minutes of class time, this is in addition to the 5 minutes before and the 5 minutes at the conclusion of class that kids are allotted to get changed. This takes up a large chunk of the 42 minute class period.
Aren’t PE classes held on the fields that are currently in place? What difference would having a turf field make?
Middle school PE cannot use the grass fields when they are wet from rain or melting snow. This includes several days after a storm when fields are still soft. It is hard to quantify how many days of outdoor PE is lost due to poor weather conditions, however, Physical Education teachers estimate losing about 1 month in the fall and 1 month in the spring. Additionally, like all other fields on our campus, the fields behind Patton need to rest - especially our varsity softball field.
What are the cost comparisons for synthetic versus natural?
The only fair comparison between costs of natural vs synthetic surfaces is to compare a 15 year life cycle cost and a per event cost over that time frame. In doing this analysis (link to natural vs synthetic surfaces) on a per event cost the synthetic turf field comes out to be less costly than a grass field. Couple that with the environmental impact of not having to use fertilizer or pesticides on grass fields and it becomes an even more worthwhile expense.
Why are we replacing our existing synthetic turf field? Will the new field be better?
Our current synthetic turf field is due for replacement, and by replacing it we will make the field safer for our athletes. Currently, the fibers are frayed, broken, and fallen over. A new surface will allow the fibers to stand up vertically and keep the crumb rubber down below the fibers. The newer dual fiber turf also provides better “fly-out” control which helps keeps the crumb rubber in the base of the field instead of on the surface where it is currently located in our older worn-out field.
Are there alternatives to using crumb rubber in a synthetic turf field?
Over the past few years, manufacturers have brought other types of infill solutions to market; cork, coconut husks, TPM rubber, EPDM rubber, etc, and none have caught on to replace crumb rubber. Some of these have created maintenance concerns, some usability concerns, and some were just too expensive to justify the premium costs.
Are there negative health effects on athletes who practice/play on synthetic turf fields?
Over the past 3-4 years there have been numerous additional reports and studies by various state agencies that have concluded that there is no definitive link to crumb rubber and health effects on athletes.
Synthetic turf research - answers to common questions
Synthetic turf pitches with rubber granulate infill - are there health risks
Citizen science often overstates ‘cancer clusters’ like the one linked to artificial turf
FIFA statement on potential cancer risks from exposure to SBR in artificial turf fields
Ripken foundation - Crumb rubber cancer risk at or below 1 in a million
What research has been done regarding this concern?
One of the more current studies (2017) is from the Washington State Board of Health. This study was in direct response to the University of Washington soccer coach Amy Griffen who in 2014 observed high cancer rates in soccer goalies. This was later picked up by NBC news and made national headlines.The Washington SBH report, dispels the notion that there is a connection between youth cancer cases and playing soccer on recycled rubber fields. Additionally, a key finding that the SBH investigators found, was that most athletes identified on the list actually spent the majority (70-74%)of their careers playing and practicing on natural grass fields.
What justifies a new parking lot? There are no figures provided for parking. (Element 4A)
According to an analysis of our current parking assessment, we are under the minimum amount of spaces needed for our facilities. (Link to parking data) Although, the need to comply has not been mandated, once work begins on our facilities, zoning ordinances can require the district to address the minimum amount of spaces needed.
The middle school fields drain well and sloping is minimal and does not warrant a $250,000 price tag to make them perfectly level. These are middle school athletes, not professionals.
(Element 6A)
These fields are actually our slowest draining fields and are closed more frequently than open when we experience unfavorable weather. Although not identified as a high priority item, middle school athletes should have a moderately level field to ensure optimal practice and play. Right now, there are no plans in the LRFP to address these elements.
What will happen with the Barn? Will it be demolished?
Currently, there are no plans to demo the barn. We will review options for the barn if any of the outdoor study elements in this area warrant modifications.
How does this plan address field use by outside groups, will they be responsible for maintenance costs and how will the district charge these groups moving forward?
The district currently has a Facility Use Policy that identifies how outside groups will be charged for use of our facilities. The district may revisit this policy based on the increase of use due to the improvements made as part of this plan. Ideally a facility use committee may be created to identify any proposed changes based on actual costs that the District experiences to make sure future charges are appropriate.
Our current traffic flow seems smooth and efficient. Is there really a need for a new central spine drive line and are there any alternative options?
Alternative options can and probably should be explored, however, we need to have the conversations that justify and support that direction. The board approved to conduct a traffic study. Results from the study will help the discussion regarding next steps.
